Going Gotek - FlashFloppy How To

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Re: Going Gotek - FlashFloppy How To

Post by rubber_jonnie » Fri May 04, 2018 8:27 am

Forgottenmyname wrote:
Sun Apr 29, 2018 8:06 pm
Cool Howto, thanks :-)

now to get the atari fixed any working.
Thanks :)

Hope the Atari is now working :)
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Re: Going Gotek - FlashFloppy How To

Post by rubber_jonnie » Fri May 04, 2018 8:33 am

So there is one final aspect to FlashFloppy I wanted to cover, and it's probably the easiest part, which is upgrading FlashFloppy once you've installed it.

It's really quite simple. Download the latest update files from here:https://github.com/keirf/FlashFloppy/wiki/Downloads.

Copy the UPD file to the root of your USB stick, insert into the Gotek and power it on with both selector buttons pressed.

When you get a message telling you you're in flash mode, release both buttons. Hey presto you will get the very latest update flashed to the Gotek.

If you get any errors, refer to the site linked above, which has a full list of error codes.

Happy updating :)

I'll hopefully get some pictures added to show the Gotek doing the upgrade.
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800XL + Ape Warp mod, 2x 1010 cassette, 1050 + Happy mod, 65XE (128k) & XC12, SIO2SD, 2600jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Atari 520ST (1Meg) + Gotek, 1040STFM + Vortex ATOnce + Gotek, 1040STF long button floppy, 4160 STE with Gotek and ROM switcher, 4160STE with 32Mhz booster, ROM switcher and CosmosEx, not to mention various bare ST boards for testing including a PAK 68/2 :)
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Re: Going Gotek - FlashFloppy How To

Post by JezC » Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:47 pm

I've just followed the guide on how to upgrade a Gotek using the USB A to A method - really clear & easy to follow!
Much simpler than the serial upgrade method I used to put the HxC firmware into another Gotek a year or two ago.

Many thanks for the excellent tutorial. Looking forward to putting it in my Falcon & trying out some of the games & music s/w...

Jez

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Re: Going Gotek - FlashFloppy How To

Post by rubber_jonnie » Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:52 pm

You're most welcome.

Seemed there was a lot of info spread over the web, hence why I decided to do my own how to with all you need in one place :)
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800XL + Ape Warp mod, 2x 1010 cassette, 1050 + Happy mod, 65XE (128k) & XC12, SIO2SD, 2600jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Atari 520ST (1Meg) + Gotek, 1040STFM + Vortex ATOnce + Gotek, 1040STF long button floppy, 4160 STE with Gotek and ROM switcher, 4160STE with 32Mhz booster, ROM switcher and CosmosEx, not to mention various bare ST boards for testing including a PAK 68/2 :)
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Re: Going Gotek - FlashFloppy How To

Post by JezC » Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:58 pm

Cool!

I'll have to order up some of the other extras for the Gotek to really let the bird fly.

Thanks once again.

Jez

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Re: Going Gotek - FlashFloppy How To

Post by rubber_jonnie » Mon Jun 11, 2018 11:00 pm

Glad to help :)
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800XL + Ape Warp mod, 2x 1010 cassette, 1050 + Happy mod, 65XE (128k) & XC12, SIO2SD, 2600jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Atari 520ST (1Meg) + Gotek, 1040STFM + Vortex ATOnce + Gotek, 1040STF long button floppy, 4160 STE with Gotek and ROM switcher, 4160STE with 32Mhz booster, ROM switcher and CosmosEx, not to mention various bare ST boards for testing including a PAK 68/2 :)
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Re: Going Gotek - FlashFloppy How To

Post by Forgottenmyname » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:06 pm

Thanks RJ, just updated two Goteks today :-)

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Re: Going Gotek - FlashFloppy How To

Post by rubber_jonnie » Thu Sep 13, 2018 12:05 am

Forgottenmyname wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:06 pm
Thanks RJ, just updated two Goteks today :-)
Great, glad I could help :)
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800XL + Ape Warp mod, 2x 1010 cassette, 1050 + Happy mod, 65XE (128k) & XC12, SIO2SD, 2600jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Atari 520ST (1Meg) + Gotek, 1040STFM + Vortex ATOnce + Gotek, 1040STF long button floppy, 4160 STE with Gotek and ROM switcher, 4160STE with 32Mhz booster, ROM switcher and CosmosEx, not to mention various bare ST boards for testing including a PAK 68/2 :)
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Re: Going Gotek - FlashFloppy How To

Post by bfollowell » Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:56 am

I'm planning to swap out my 1040STF's ailing floppy drive for a Gotek floppy emulator. I'm looking for some information. I've read some conflicting information and want to make sure I have a pretty good understanding before I even order one.

First of all, my STF still has TOS 1.0. I've read that the ST needs to have at least TOS 1.04 in order to use a Gotek. Can anyone confirm or refute that? I plan to upgrade to 1.04 soon anyway, but I may not before I put in the Gotek unless I have to.

Next, I'm seeing that there are 1.44MB versions and 720KB versions of the Gotek. I've read that we have to make certain that we buy the 720KB version only, and I've read that it doesn't matter because when we flash the firmware for Atari ST support, that will take care of it. I just want to confirm which unit I need to purchase or if it even matters.

Lastly, I know the bulk of ST disk images seem to be 720KB images, but there are 360KB and 800KB images as well. Will the Gotek read any and all of these, or only the 720KB images?

Thanks to anyone that can help bring me up to speed before I start my project and thanks for the wonderful tutorials in this thread.

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Re: Going Gotek - FlashFloppy How To

Post by rubber_jonnie » Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:40 am

Morning, and thanks for your questions!

These are questions, which to be honest never came up when I was first writing this how to, but they are perfectly valid and reasonable to ask.

I'll answer what I can for you based on my experiences with STFMs and STEs, and if I'm wrong, then hopefully one of the good folks on here can jump on and correct me.

With regards to Gotek not working with TOS 1.0, it's difficult to comment as I have never tested on a version of TOS that old, but I would expect that this shouldn't be a problem as the Gotek presents itself as a floppy drive. There are issues with hard drives under TOS v1.0 if I recall, but this is a different matter entirely and shouldn't affect Gotek use.

In all honesty I would suggest for the best compatibility and use of your STF, that you should upgrade to TOS 1.04 anyway, you can find it here: https://www.exxoshost.co.uk/atari/last/storenew/#0033, just scroll through to find the one for you.

As for 1.44MB or 720KB, I never considered this to be a problem and certainly didn't specify a 720kb device only when I was buying.

The models I've used are marked SFRC922C and SRFC922D, which as far as I'm aware are both 1.44MB capable devices. Ultimately, it's the firmware that determines what the drive can/can't read, and I've used Goteks with FlashFloppy firmware on both STs and an Amiga 1200 without any issues.(Well other than the cheap ass USB sticks I used. Use decent ones and you'll be fine).

I've only ever used normal ST images, so I can't comment on 360KB or 800KB, as I just haven't tried. I'd expect that 360KB would be fine and that 800KB should also work based on the fact it does for the A1200. Again, I'm happy to be corrected if somebody has better knowledge than me.

Be aware that FlashFloppy and HxC firmware doesn't support .STX images (See here: http://pasti.fxatari.com/), which are intended as images for the preservation of software, not as images for use with floppy emulators. HxC did get as far as an alpha support version for STX images if I recall, but then it was dropped. I'm pretty sure you can't use .MSA images either, but it is relatively easy to convert these to .ST format, there are utilities to be found here: http://msaconverter.free.fr/index-uk.html

If you have a Windows 2000 or above PC with a proper floppy disk drive (Not USB), then you can also use FloImg (See here: http://atari.8bitchip.info/floimgd.php) to read/write and image disks.

Hopefully some of that is of use to you!
Collector of old Atari things:
800XL + Ape Warp mod, 2x 1010 cassette, 1050 + Happy mod, 65XE (128k) & XC12, SIO2SD, 2600jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Atari 520ST (1Meg) + Gotek, 1040STFM + Vortex ATOnce + Gotek, 1040STF long button floppy, 4160 STE with Gotek and ROM switcher, 4160STE with 32Mhz booster, ROM switcher and CosmosEx, not to mention various bare ST boards for testing including a PAK 68/2 :)
Plus the rest..
Amiga stuff, Mac stuff, Sinclair stuff etc...
www.electronicnothingness.co.uk

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