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Re: Hello from Missouri USA

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:31 am
by Petari
dhedberg wrote:
Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:54 pm
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its response time is not great so fast moving things look pretty bad on it.
Response time in case of monitor ? That sounds like some car's gas (accelerator) pedal . If fast moving things look bad, that's because different reason - most likely internal frequency conversion.

Re: Hello from Missouri USA

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 9:58 am
by dhedberg
Petari wrote:
Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:31 am
dhedberg wrote:
Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:54 pm
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its response time is not great so fast moving things look pretty bad on it.
Response time in case of monitor ? That sounds like some car's gas (accelerator) pedal . If fast moving things look bad, that's because different reason - most likely internal frequency conversion.
The response time of a monitor is defined as the time it takes for a pixel to change between active and inactive. It's a known issue with older (and even newer) flat screen monitors. Leads to smearing of moving objects on the screen. With that said, frequency conversion could be an issue as well in the NEC 1970FXp. Don't know. What I do know is that things look a lot better with a modern monitor and the OSSC.

Re: Hello from Missouri USA

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:42 am
by Petari
Ahh... that's pretty bad terminology. What matters is how fast display (pixel) can change it's state . Usually given in milliSecs . And that's not problem actually since 2005-2006 . Buying older LCD monitor is even not easy - you will hardly find such (working), since most is manufactured after 2005 .
I played lot of games on my Asus monitor from 2006, and never seen any smearing.
Response time would be rather delay between input and display panel + LCD delay self. They call it lag often.
From which year are NEC 1970xx monitors ?

Re: Hello from Missouri USA

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 3:00 am
by officer960
dhedberg wrote:
Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:44 pm
exxos wrote:
Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:07 pm


Looking at the back of the OSSC it has a scart connection, so a RGB to Scart cable should work I guess.
Or the UBE monitor adapter in your store should work as well as the OSSC also has a VGA connector as input.
https://www.exxoshost.co.uk/atari/last/storenew/#0107

For the Falcon030, the 3-in-1 monitor adapter can be used:
https://www.exxoshost.co.uk/atari/last/storenew/#0146
That would work only for monochrome (high res). The OSSC VGA expects 31khz input on the VGA.

I ordered a couple of SVCART RGB cables for the ST(e) and Amiga from EU that should be here... eventually :)

My OSSC did mail out today though. Hopefully in a couple of weeks it should be here.

Re: Hello from Missouri USA

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:54 pm
by dhedberg
officer960 wrote:
Thu Jul 26, 2018 3:00 am
dhedberg wrote:
Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:44 pm

Or the UBE monitor adapter in your store should work as well as the OSSC also has a VGA connector as input.
https://www.exxoshost.co.uk/atari/last/storenew/#0107

For the Falcon030, the 3-in-1 monitor adapter can be used:
https://www.exxoshost.co.uk/atari/last/storenew/#0146
That would work only for monochrome (high res). The OSSC VGA expects 31khz input on the VGA.
Where'd you get that information from? I have no problem running 15kHz on the VGA input on my OSSC. I don't like to mess with SCART cables! :-)
See the screenshot of my Falcon030 in 15kHz/50Hz RGB mode, using a VGA cable from Falcon to OSSC, and then connected to my Eizo EV2455 using a HDMI cable. Works like a charm!

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officer960 wrote:
Thu Jul 26, 2018 3:00 am
I ordered a couple of SVCART RGB cables for the ST(e) and Amiga from EU that should be here... eventually :)
My OSSC did mail out today though. Hopefully in a couple of weeks it should be here.
I'm convinced you'll be very satisfied. The SCART cables will work as well, but the UBE switch is awesome! :-)
Also, make sure you get the remote for the OSCC, I find it hard to navigate using the buttons on the panel.

Re: Hello from Missouri USA

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:51 am
by officer960
dhedberg wrote:
Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:54 pm
officer960 wrote:
Thu Jul 26, 2018 3:00 am


That would work only for monochrome (high res). The OSSC VGA expects 31khz input on the VGA.
Where'd you get that information from? I have no problem running 15kHz on the VGA input on my OSSC. I don't like to mess with SCART cables! :-)
See the screenshot of my Falcon030 in 15kHz/50Hz RGB mode, using a VGA cable from Falcon to OSSC, and then connected to my Eizo EV2455 using a HDMI cable. Works like a charm!


20180726_223726.jpg
officer960 wrote:
Thu Jul 26, 2018 3:00 am
I ordered a couple of SVCART RGB cables for the ST(e) and Amiga from EU that should be here... eventually :)
My OSSC did mail out today though. Hopefully in a couple of weeks it should be here.
I'm convinced you'll be very satisfied. The SCART cables will work as well, but the UBE switch is awesome! :-)
Also, make sure you get the remote for the OSCC, I find it hard to navigate using the buttons on the panel.
@dhedberg you're absolutely correct. The company that sold me the OCCS told me the erroneous information about the VGA:
For 15khz sources we always recommend SCART or component. The OSSCs VGA port is really designed with 31khz sources in mind. It lacks the low pass filter that many 15khz devices need.
It works perfectly with my 1040 STFM, Mega STe and Amiga's connected to the VGA (and SCART) port.