C103253 REV.5 - STFM 1MB Upgrade

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Re: C103253 REV.5 - STFM 1MB Upgrade

Post by rubber_jonnie » Sat May 11, 2019 12:27 pm

PhilC wrote:
Sat May 11, 2019 11:58 am
If you struggle finding one RJ, I can probably post you one but probably wouldn't be till next weekend.
Appreciate the offer, I have just found one with a needle, though it has silver conductive paint in it atm, which I am kind of reluctant to just throw away. Also, I'd be concerned that I hadn't got all the paint remains out and it had contaminated the paste.

I'll have a delve online, see what I can get, and I'll let you know if I'm struggling to find any. As long as I can get a syringe, the needle I have should be ok.

Just out of curiosity, what diameter needle are you using?
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Re: C103253 REV.5 - STFM 1MB Upgrade

Post by PhilC » Sat May 11, 2019 12:34 pm

rubber_jonnie wrote:
Sat May 11, 2019 12:27 pm

Just out of curiosity, what diameter needle are you using?
Probably about 0.75mm, so it's a pain to use but works well nonetheless.
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Re: C103253 REV.5 - STFM 1MB Upgrade

Post by exxos » Sat May 11, 2019 1:30 pm

4MB STFM 1.44 FD- VELOCE+ 020 STE - 4MB STE 32MHz - STFM 16MHz - STM - MEGA ST - Falcon 030 CT60 - Atari 2600 - Atari 7800 - Gigafile - SD Floppy Emulator - PeST - HxC - CosmosEx - Ultrasatan - various clutter

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Re: C103253 REV.5 - STFM 1MB Upgrade

Post by rubber_jonnie » Sat May 11, 2019 1:56 pm

Cool, I did watch a similar video. I have syringes on the way for the paste, and I am confident that I can do it without burning the board at least! The most difficult part is going to be alignment of the chips I think. I will think about making a jig, perhaps 3d printed.
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Atari 520ST (1Meg) + Gotek, 1040STFM + Vortex ATOnce + Gotek, 1040STF long button floppy, 4160 STE with Gotek and ROM switcher, 4160STE with 32Mhz booster, ROM switcher and CosmosEx, not to mention various bare ST boards for testing including a PAK 68/2 :)
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Re: C103253 REV.5 - STFM 1MB Upgrade

Post by rubber_jonnie » Mon May 20, 2019 10:23 am

Ok, so I have everything I need now, and the board will now not work with its original CPU!

PAK works though, so fingers crossed I can start to add in the new RAM and at least test with the PAK installed rather then the 68K.

Why are these things never easy!
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800XL + Ape Warp mod, 2x 1010 cassette, 1050 + Happy mod, 65XE (128k) & XC12, SIO2SD, 2600jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Atari 520ST (1Meg) + Gotek, 1040STFM + Vortex ATOnce + Gotek, 1040STF long button floppy, 4160 STE with Gotek and ROM switcher, 4160STE with 32Mhz booster, ROM switcher and CosmosEx, not to mention various bare ST boards for testing including a PAK 68/2 :)
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Re: C103253 REV.5 - STFM 1MB Upgrade

Post by rubber_jonnie » Thu May 23, 2019 12:16 pm

Right, finally the boards up and running with a normal CPU, so this job is back on, hopefully I can get on it over the weekend since it's a bank holiday.

Weirdly it now works with a CPU from a CO70789 board that it didn't work with before. All these CPU shenanigans are just insane.
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800XL + Ape Warp mod, 2x 1010 cassette, 1050 + Happy mod, 65XE (128k) & XC12, SIO2SD, 2600jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Atari 520ST (1Meg) + Gotek, 1040STFM + Vortex ATOnce + Gotek, 1040STF long button floppy, 4160 STE with Gotek and ROM switcher, 4160STE with 32Mhz booster, ROM switcher and CosmosEx, not to mention various bare ST boards for testing including a PAK 68/2 :)
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Re: C103253 REV.5 - STFM 1MB Upgrade

Post by exxos » Thu May 23, 2019 1:27 pm

rubber_jonnie wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 12:16 pm
Weirdly it now works with a CPU from a CO70789 board that it didn't work with before. All these CPU shenanigans are just insane.
Welcome to my world ;)
4MB STFM 1.44 FD- VELOCE+ 020 STE - 4MB STE 32MHz - STFM 16MHz - STM - MEGA ST - Falcon 030 CT60 - Atari 2600 - Atari 7800 - Gigafile - SD Floppy Emulator - PeST - HxC - CosmosEx - Ultrasatan - various clutter

https://www.exxoshost.co.uk/atari/ All my hardware guides - mods - games - STOS
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Re: C103253 REV.5 - STFM 1MB Upgrade

Post by rubber_jonnie » Thu May 23, 2019 1:41 pm

exxos wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 1:27 pm
rubber_jonnie wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 12:16 pm
Weirdly it now works with a CPU from a CO70789 board that it didn't work with before. All these CPU shenanigans are just insane.
Welcome to my world ;)
I know we've had these conversations a few times now, but I am quite honestly surprised that any of your boosters have worked under these conditions. Frankly you're a miracle worker.
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800XL + Ape Warp mod, 2x 1010 cassette, 1050 + Happy mod, 65XE (128k) & XC12, SIO2SD, 2600jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Atari 520ST (1Meg) + Gotek, 1040STFM + Vortex ATOnce + Gotek, 1040STF long button floppy, 4160 STE with Gotek and ROM switcher, 4160STE with 32Mhz booster, ROM switcher and CosmosEx, not to mention various bare ST boards for testing including a PAK 68/2 :)
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Re: C103253 REV.5 - STFM 1MB Upgrade

Post by rubber_jonnie » Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:27 pm

Ok, so I went to try and have a go at this over the weekend, and am no further ahead!!

I think the solder paste I have is a bit too thick for the bore of needle I'm using. Either that or the small syringe I have just can't apply enough pressure to the paste.

Having a rethink on how I'm going to do this now, as it really shouldn't be this hard to do!!
Collector of old Atari things:
800XL + Ape Warp mod, 2x 1010 cassette, 1050 + Happy mod, 65XE (128k) & XC12, SIO2SD, 2600jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Atari 520ST (1Meg) + Gotek, 1040STFM + Vortex ATOnce + Gotek, 1040STF long button floppy, 4160 STE with Gotek and ROM switcher, 4160STE with 32Mhz booster, ROM switcher and CosmosEx, not to mention various bare ST boards for testing including a PAK 68/2 :)
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Re: C103253 REV.5 - STFM 1MB Upgrade

Post by PhilC » Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:17 pm

Yeah I've had the problem, it is hard to get the solder paste moving. I never seal the tube, so always have to clear the old harder stuff out first.
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