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Re: Hissing and whistling in the STe audio output

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:41 pm
by sandord
exxos wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:16 pm
sandord wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:12 pm
That's the first picture...
ah ok...

have you measured the power rails on each chip to see if anything spiky there ?

Also, hold down the reset button (it will stop the machine from running) so that would be interesting to test...
I'm sorry, I can't do any more measuring anymore any time soon. I have a lot of stuff to do and will be out for a long weekend. Gotta get some sleep now!

Re: Hissing and whistling in the STe audio output

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:58 pm
by sandord
I forgot about some left channel measurements I also made, they might be interesting to compare to the right channel measurements.

NOTE: these are all AFTER recap so some filtering might be missing. I can't make measurements of this setup BEFORE recap now because I don't have time.

= DAC ============================================================================================


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= U504 ============================================================================================


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= U505 ============================================================================================


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[R] (U506, the R requivalent of U505)

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= U507 ============================================================================================


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Re: Hissing and whistling in the STe audio output

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:36 pm
by exxos
It looks like the problems start right after the first op-amp ?

In that case, it would have to be getting some frequency from somewhere, looks like it starts off at about 1.3KHz, also at 15.6KHz.

I would have to assume the noise is being introduced by the power rails to the op-amp.

That wouldn't be exactly simple to fix... Really it needs its own little regulated PSU, looks like 8.2V and -5V ?! odd, but I would be tempted to lift up those 2 10R resistors....
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... and use a PP3 battery for the 8.2V (would be about that for a rechargeable one) then have another in series with a 7905 regulator to get the -5V rail.... or 3x AA batteries in series instead...

Noise can still get into the op-amps via bad grounding on the MB.. but if that ruled out some noise, then at least we have a proper starting point to what is going on...