Eiffel is here, and I have a week off next week (Well a weeks holiday, I don't think I can class it as off!)
Hopefully I'll get some time though and I can get this puppy up and running.
Looks like I'll be getting a Mega ST4 soon
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Re: Looks like I'll be getting a Mega ST4 soon
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800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
Re: Looks like I'll be getting a Mega ST4 soon
So do I but the wife wants to decorate.rubber_jonnie wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:13 pm Eiffel is here, and I have a week off next week (Well a weeks holiday, I don't think I can class it as off!)
If it ain't broke, test it to Destruction.
Re: Looks like I'll be getting a Mega ST4 soon
I think I like your form factor better. The older revision is longer and narrower.rubber_jonnie wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:13 pm Eiffel is here, and I have a week off next week (Well a weeks holiday, I don't think I can class it as off!)
Hopefully I'll get some time though and I can get this puppy up and running.
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I feel your pain. I've got to re grout and seal our shower, go and take a load of crap to the dump, help clear out the spare room ready for the 2 desks I need to collect from my old office, and make another trip to the dump.PhilC wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:23 pmSo do I but the wife wants to decorate.rubber_jonnie wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:13 pm Eiffel is here, and I have a week off next week (Well a weeks holiday, I don't think I can class it as off!)
High point is fibre to the premises broadband installation on Thursday
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Re: Looks like I'll be getting a Mega ST4 soon
Yeah, it is pretty dinky. It is the light version BTW so only one Atari joystick/mouse port, but I have to say it arrived very quickly considering Olivier is in Europe.Basically it only took 6 days to arrive.PaulJ wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:43 pmI think I like your form factor better. The older revision is longer and narrower.rubber_jonnie wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:13 pm Eiffel is here, and I have a week off next week (Well a weeks holiday, I don't think I can class it as off!)
Hopefully I'll get some time though and I can get this puppy up and running.
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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So today worked out pretty well, as I discovered a very small thing that was having a fairly annoying side effect, that being the machine misbehaving.
It's not so obvious in pic no 1, but have a look at the second EPROM back:
I only noticed as I caught it in the light just right. Pic no 2 shows just what the problem was:
And after some gentle manipulation, I plugged it back in and everything seemed much better
The list of fixes so far is:
1. Replaced mising sound chip. Channel A is silent under test, but B & C work fine. I'll test with another chip in case I have a duffer, but I suspect the problem is one of the nearby PCB traces that was damaged which still needs work.
2. Replaced missing Blitter. This all seems to test out fine.
3. Tweaked the contacts in the MMU socket, now I seem to be seeing 4MB ram all the time.
4. As above, fixed bent EPROM pin.
5. As the floppy connector disintegrated in my hands,I fitted a new one. Floppy works just fine now.
So what's left?
1. Fix the sound chip channel A problem.
2. Even with Eiffel, I can't get the mouse to work properly (KB is fine), either with a normal Atari mouse, or a PS/2 mouse. Could be a dodgy connection on the Megas RJ11 socket, I just don't know. I figure I need to wire up a spare ST KB direct to the board, see if that works.
3. Make a new wiring harness for the battery compartment.
So good overall progress, I think it'll be fully operational pretty soon. Once it is all running stably, I will look at some options, like a PAK install, possibly an internal IDE adaptor and maybe I'll even look at installing the DVI adapter board I have from Simon Monson. That would be quite a machine
It's not so obvious in pic no 1, but have a look at the second EPROM back:
I only noticed as I caught it in the light just right. Pic no 2 shows just what the problem was:
And after some gentle manipulation, I plugged it back in and everything seemed much better
The list of fixes so far is:
1. Replaced mising sound chip. Channel A is silent under test, but B & C work fine. I'll test with another chip in case I have a duffer, but I suspect the problem is one of the nearby PCB traces that was damaged which still needs work.
2. Replaced missing Blitter. This all seems to test out fine.
3. Tweaked the contacts in the MMU socket, now I seem to be seeing 4MB ram all the time.
4. As above, fixed bent EPROM pin.
5. As the floppy connector disintegrated in my hands,I fitted a new one. Floppy works just fine now.
So what's left?
1. Fix the sound chip channel A problem.
2. Even with Eiffel, I can't get the mouse to work properly (KB is fine), either with a normal Atari mouse, or a PS/2 mouse. Could be a dodgy connection on the Megas RJ11 socket, I just don't know. I figure I need to wire up a spare ST KB direct to the board, see if that works.
3. Make a new wiring harness for the battery compartment.
So good overall progress, I think it'll be fully operational pretty soon. Once it is all running stably, I will look at some options, like a PAK install, possibly an internal IDE adaptor and maybe I'll even look at installing the DVI adapter board I have from Simon Monson. That would be quite a machine
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Re: Looks like I'll be getting a Mega ST4 soon
When the keyboard are working fine with the Eiffel so the mouse must be working too. Your PS/ 2 mouse are faulty. On the Eiffel Joystick port you can not connect a mouse I think it is joystick only.
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Re: Looks like I'll be getting a Mega ST4 soon
Actually, you're right Frank, I just re-read Olivier's notes and I may have miss-read it originally, but not really a problem, I just need to go through my boxes of stuff to find a proper PS/2 mouse.frank.lukas wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 2:04 pm When the keyboard are working fine with the Eiffel so the mouse must be working too. Your PS/ 2 mouse are faulty. On the Eiffel Joystick port you can not connect a mouse I think it is joystick only.
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
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Re: Looks like I'll be getting a Mega ST4 soon
Indeed, it's an exact replica of the Joystick 1 port on the ST(F)(M) so doesn't support the mouse.
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ZX81->Spectrum->Memotech MTX->Sinclair QL->520STM->BBC Micro->TT030->PCs & Sun Workstations.
Added code to the MiNT kernel (still there the last time I checked) + put together MiNTOS.
Collection now with added Macs, Amigas, Suns and Acorns.
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Audio problem resolved, all 3 channels are now audible on test, seems that A & B are next to each other on the chip, and are supposed to be tied together, but the pad for channel A, which should have a track to the pad next door for channel B was gone. So it's now bodge wired.
As soon as I finish my coffee, I'll get the wiring harness made for the batteries.
One last final item is some FDD standoffs, but since I designed some already, I can 3d print them unless I have some in a box somewhere.
Then it's time for a mouse hunt!!
As soon as I finish my coffee, I'll get the wiring harness made for the batteries.
One last final item is some FDD standoffs, but since I designed some already, I can 3d print them unless I have some in a box somewhere.
Then it's time for a mouse hunt!!
Collector of many retro things!
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...
800XL and 65XE both with Ultimate1MB,VBXL/XE & PokeyMax, SIDE3, SDrive Max, 2x 1010 cassette, 2x 1050 one with Happy mod, 3x 2600 Jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Approx 20 STs, including a 520 STM, 520 STFMs, 3x Mega ST, MSTE & 2x 32 Mhz boosted STEs
Plus the rest, totalling around 50 machines including a QL, 3x BBC Model B, Electron, Spectrums, ZX81 etc...