Paradroid STE DMA issue blog

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As a bonus, I tried a diode on the VCC of the DMA, same issue. :roll:
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Was that ulfrasatan tried on a different ST ? Sorry can't remember if it had or not...
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@exxos I'm trying jookies software but there's no explanation of what the figures mean. Does an X mean bad? And how many sector counts is good to use? Thx
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Sectors number is how many times to write to each sector.. 1 is fine..

Looking at the software image I posted, mine has all WWWW so I assume x is fail..

Try the pattern option, and look at the sectors on the PC...
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Re: Paradroid STE DMA issue blog

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Steve wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:47 am @exxos I'm trying jookies software but there's no explanation of what the figures mean. Does an X mean bad? And how many sector counts is good to use? Thx

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This software looks very interesting, for debugging purposes this can be more than useful...


Also I bring to Atari ST/E users a new video:

This is a video of the updated firmare, version of 5 February 2021, that solves hard disk writing on my STE;
probably this can be useful for many other ST machines.

However, on the update package, the original firmware is also included.

Previously, on a repairing attempt, and following Exxos research and recommendations, I installed the 10 K pull-ups on the WD1772 chip, and the CPU is replaced with a 68HC000FN20 , a low power version.



[VIDEO][/VIDEO]
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Re: Paradroid STE DMA issue blog

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@mst Woody is staring into my soul... it is disturbing me... :D
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Re: Paradroid STE DMA issue blog

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@mst
Here is my testing today with the STE & new firmware. So far the new firmware is /more stable/ than the original with this particular system, but is not as stable as an ultrasatan (fails copy test) and Jookies program still fills the screen with X's which I think is failed writes. But it seems no MBR corruption, where as original firmware did have MBR corruption.

ASCI2STM TESTING
(ALL USING ASCI2STM IMAGE / PPUTNIKS DRIVER)

ORIGINAL FIRMWARE
STE 32Mhz - DMA -38 SJ4 95
RUN HDTEST - Lots of X's a few W/R
WRITE DESKTOP.INF - Corrupted files
COPY GAME TO C:\ - FAIL 'cannot create file' (nothing copied)

STE 8Mhz - DMA -38 SJ4 95
RUN HDTEST - Lots of X's
WRITE DESKTOP.INF - Corrupted files
COPY GAME TO C:\ - FAIL > copied entire directory? But accessing C:\ everything is erased


NEW FIRMWARE
STE 32Mhz - DMA -38 SJ4 95
RUN HDTEST - Lots of X's but more W and R's this time
WRITE DESKTOP.INF - SUCCESS
COPY GAME TO C:\ - FAIL copies some files, but then shows 'error occured copying a file' MBR OK

STE 8Mhz - DMA -38 SJ4 95
RUN HDTEST - Program read corrupt
WRITE DESKTOP.INF - Corrupted files
COPY GAME TO C:\ - FAIL 'cannot create file' (nothing copied)
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Re: Paradroid STE DMA issue blog

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Just out of interest tested Jookies program with an original Ultrasatan:

STE @ 32Mhz, all X's and absolutely no R or W. But can copy files without corruption and save desktop.inf

So I have no idea of what Jookies program even means? It makes no sense.
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Re: Paradroid STE DMA issue blog

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Steve wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:51 pm @mst
Here is my testing today with the STE & new firmware. So far the new firmware is /more stable/ than the original with this particular system, but is not as stable as an ultrasatan (fails copy test) and Jookies program still fills the screen with X's which I think is failed writes. But it seems no MBR corruption, where as original firmware did have MBR corruption.
Thank you so much,

The STEs equipped with -38 DMA chip are really annoying; these will need to follow all Exxos research and fixing stages...
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