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Re: STFM case remake

Post by exxos » Fri May 18, 2018 7:54 pm

Just to let people know, I finally got a refund via paypal for the bulk of the amount! Probably the first time in 15 years PayPal actually helped me with something! :shock:

Icky is still working on the 3D files. After we made a closer inspection of the files, they are riddled with errors and mistakes :( so in a way, is probably better that the physical case never got produced.

After talking for a while with a injection moulding company, they basically said the back panel of the case may not reproduce very well. So it is most likely the rear of the case will be a separate panel. This means different panels can be printed for the STF/STFM/STE etc.

Of course a this will all take a long time.. So there may not be any progress reports for a while now. But we have not given up on this project..
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Re: STFM case remake

Post by Icky » Sat May 19, 2018 10:34 am

exxos wrote:
Fri May 18, 2018 7:54 pm
Just to let people know, I finally got a refund via paypal for the bulk of the amount! Probably the first time in 15 years PayPal actually helped me with something! :shock:
Glad you got your money back. Nice to see PayPal doing something right.
exxos wrote:
Fri May 18, 2018 7:54 pm
Icky is still working on the 3D files. After we made a closer inspection of the files, they are riddled with errors and mistakes :( so in a way, is probably better that the physical case never got produced.
We will get there eventually - just need time to iron out all the issues and work in some missing pieces as well.
exxos wrote:
Fri May 18, 2018 7:54 pm
Of course a this will all take a long time.. So there may not be any progress reports for a while now. But we have not given up on this project..
Just watch this space as Exxos says, its going to be a long ride but we are persevering.

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Re: STFM case remake

Post by DrF » Sat May 19, 2018 4:05 pm

PayPal recently started some "money pool" thing, it's like them KickStarter raise funds thing, I think people would donate to that, shame PayPal themselfs just cannot be trusted :(

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Re: STFM case remake

Post by exxos » Sun May 20, 2018 11:12 am

DrF wrote:
Sat May 19, 2018 4:05 pm
PayPal recently started some "money pool" thing, it's like them KickStarter raise funds thing, I think people would donate to that, shame PayPal themselfs just cannot be trusted :(
PayPal would be a good system as lots of people use it, but like you say, paypal is just a awful company like ebay. Can you envision 40K in funds being tied up for 6 months+ because someone opened a dispute...

Kickstarter etc has been talked about a lot. Though it always boils down to getting as much cash as possible, but only way to get people to spend more is if the payment value was a discount on the final case to encourage people to spend more. I mean I could get 200 people donating £5, but thats only £1,000... If you look at 40,000 / 200 , those 200 people need to fund £200 each to make it work.

Crowdfunding can work, I mean people raised like 20k for that book I think ? Though mostly they get a book for their cash and goodies. With this case, it's more complicated.

My only other thought is if like 10 people chipped in 5K each and they get the cheap cases to sell. Though even that seems unlikely. Even if I could find 10 people to fund it and we all sold cases, likely only a couple of people would sell cases, and the other 8 wouldn't get their money back.
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Re: STFM case remake

Post by IngoQ » Sun May 20, 2018 4:09 pm

To me it seems like unless we find a much cheaper method of producing a 1040ST case, this will be a dead end. There is a huge financial risk and nobody of us seems to have that kind of money to blow.

Maybe it would be an idea to try making a case that is

a) DIYable
b) fits an ST Mainboard
c) is expandable
d) does not necessarily look like the original?

I mean, if we are talking about making a new board with the possibility of new extensions, why not fit in a new case?

Provided it is not an ugly box like the MIST, of course ;)

But something like the Mega or the TT case could be an option.... or if it needs to be all in one design, a simpler variant of the console design, that could be clipped/screwed together...
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Re: STFM case remake

Post by IngoQ » Sun May 20, 2018 4:16 pm

Ingo :geek:

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Re: STFM case remake

Post by IngoQ » Sun May 20, 2018 4:27 pm

And then there is that:

Ingo :geek:

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Re: STFM case remake

Post by exxos » Sun May 20, 2018 5:44 pm

IngoQ wrote:
Sun May 20, 2018 4:09 pm
I mean, if we are talking about making a new board with the possibility of new extensions, why not fit in a new case?
A new motherboard can be ATX and use any PC case. Though it doesn't solve the retro computer case issue. Mostly its because the keyboard is very long on the ST. could use a laptop keyboard, but then still need a new motherboard. I think a new motherboard is a long way off yet, to much other work to do yet.
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Re: STFM case remake

Post by Maeke » Sun May 20, 2018 6:29 pm

IngoQ wrote:
Sun May 20, 2018 4:27 pm
And then there is that:

I hate this case, it's only a very poor and spiritless imitation of a true vintage computer case.
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Re: STFM case remake

Post by DrF » Sun May 20, 2018 6:46 pm

Maeke wrote:
Sun May 20, 2018 6:29 pm
IngoQ wrote:
Sun May 20, 2018 4:27 pm
And then there is that:

I hate this case, it's only a very poor and spiritless imitation of a true vintage computer case.
It don't do nothing for me either sadly :(
I used to build HTPCs before in a case very similar to that in the early 2000s, a cheap case from a company called Chinese company called Tsunami they was about £40 then with the shameless quality to match too, lots of sanding, grinding and filing to get things to fit :lol:

Late Edit :

The dangers of KickStarter come out yet again sadly :(

https://techcrunch.com/2018/05/20/after ... isappears/

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