Alt-/Fast-/TT-RAM expansion for 1040STE

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Alt-/Fast-/TT-RAM expansion for 1040STE

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Does anyone know of a current design or finished product for a Alt-/Fast-/TT-RAM expansion for 1040STE? Something like the Magnum but with currently available parts? ;)
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IngoQ wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:31 pm Does anyone know of a current design or finished product for a Alt-/Fast-/TT-RAM expansion for 1040STE? Something like the Magnum but with currently available parts? ;)
I think there is monster for the STE ? Though it is not compatible with my booster :(

Once the V2.5 booster is finished, I will be working on fast RAM for it, and it could be ported to the STE, but I am not sure about height restrictions after the booster is fitted as that fast strong card would have to be another add-on card.

I did design one for the STFM about a year ago, but as with everything else I just cannot work on everything at once, and some things just have to wait :)
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exxos wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:35 pm but I am not sure about height restrictions after the booster is fitted as that fast strong card would have to be another add-on card.
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Would more layers in the PCB help but then that adds a cost problem and design issues.
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exxos wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:35 pm I did design one for the STFM about a year ago, but as with everything else I just cannot work on everything at once, and some things just have to wait
I am a little disappointed, I have to say. Isn't the fundamental goal of your existence the fulfilling of my wishes? :foldarms: :mrgreen:
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DrF wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:47 pm Image
Heresy!!! :mrgreen:

But honestly, is there a technical reason, why a cutout in the shielding is so unthinkable? ;)
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IngoQ wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:48 pm I am a little disappointed, I have to say. Isn't the fundamental goal of your existence the fulfilling of my wishes? :foldarms: :mrgreen:
Yes yours and the other 700 people also :twisted:
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DrF wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:47 pm Would more layers in the PCB help but then that adds a cost problem and design issues.
Is just physical restraints as always, there would have to be the board to plug on top of the CPU which will make it higher. I think the booster PCB already hits the underside of the metal shield, it could be removed but I am not sure about space restrictions anywhere else.

This was the design I was planning for the STFM, which was designed as a plug-in expansion upgrade. Again not sure about physical restraints, it probably won't fit. Also this could be used as a plug-in option for future STE boosters.

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Likely this will have to be actually integrated into the future V2 booster PCB itself.
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exxos wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:53 pm Yes yours and the other 700 people also :twisted:
Isn't then drinking, eating and sleeping a little selfish of you? :lol:
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exxos wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:59 pm Likely this will have to be actually integrated into the future V2 booster PCB itself.
So the logic to drive this would be located on the accelerator? Since I only see RAMs in there...
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IngoQ wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:04 pm Isn't then drinking, eating and sleeping a little selfish of you? :lol:

Apparently so, oddly 14 hours a day working on Atari stuff isn't enough for some people, plus I actually have a day job as well :roll:

Actually, working on new hardware I have very little time for these days, as the majority of my time is keeping stock up on my store, which I am failing miserably at mostly :(
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