NEC Multisync LCD

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mrbombermillzy
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Re: TT Software overscan?

Post by mrbombermillzy » Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:22 pm

Atarian Computing wrote:
Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:15 pm
Just bought 3 1990FX monitors. Yet to receive them. Hopefully they will do 15khz.
Youre worse than me with two! :lol:

Though to be fair, I only wanted one, but the first one I had delivered was smashed up by the courier (that base is quite heavy, isnt it?) so I had to try again.

@IngoQ: I believe in my original AF sum up of the 1990FXp, it wasnt the ideal monitor; multi res Amiga demos being the main hurdle. A change of resolution doesnt always get auto scaled properly, and the interlace modes dont display at all. And like pointed out about the Dell monitors, even the manufacture date can matter.

I actually work for a small company that refurbishes Dell computer products, and the screen manufacturers get swapped about quite a bit, (the display electronics not quite as often but still a bit here and there) hence the whole 'lucky dip' nature of it all.

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Re: TT Software overscan?

Post by Atarian Computing » Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:27 pm

mrbombermillzy wrote:
Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:22 pm
Atarian Computing wrote:
Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:15 pm
Just bought 3 1990FX monitors. Yet to receive them. Hopefully they will do 15khz.
Youre worse than me with two! :lol:

Though to be fair, I only wanted one, but the first one I had delivered was smashed up by the courier (that base is quite heavy, isnt it?) so I had to try again.

@IngoQ: I believe in my original AF sum up of the 1990FXp, it wasnt the ideal monitor; multi res Amiga demos being the main hurdle. A change of resolution doesnt always get auto scaled properly, and the interlace modes dont display at all. And like pointed out about the Dell monitors, even the manufacture date can matter.

I actually work for a small company that refurbishes Dell computer products, and the screen manufacturers get swapped about quite a bit, (the display electronics not quite as often but still a bit here and there) hence the whole 'lucky dip' nature of it all.
These three were too cheap to pass up. Less than 100€ including shipping. Actually half was shipping.

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Re: TT Software overscan?

Post by Atarian Computing » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:54 pm

Atarian Computing wrote:
Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:15 pm
Just bought 3 1990FX monitors. Yet to receive them. Hopefully they will do 15khz.
Happy days! Monitors arrived. All 31.5kg. That was an absolute masterclass on packing, just awesome. Seller did communicate to me that one monitor turned out to be a slightly inferior 1990SX and offered a discount that I accepted. Condition was like new on all of them.

The two 1990FX monitors do glorious 15khz :yay2:

The 1990SX, like its big brother the 1990SXi, was out of sync. But I wasn't expecting any of them to do 15khz. So chuffed because my only 15khz monitor so far has been the BenQ BL702A which, compared to NEC, well it's a LADA where NEC is a top spec Range Rover.

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Re: NEC Multisync LCD

Post by Atarian Computing » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:07 pm

eBay UK has a 1990FX for a reasonable price: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cheap-19-NEC-M ... Sw6LBa4EIb

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Re: NEC Multisync LCD

Post by Atarian Computing » Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:08 pm

NEC LCD1990FX - 19", 14ms, S-IPS (LG.Philips LM190E05) - DVI-I and D-SUB

NEC LCD1990FXp - 19", 20ms, PVA (Samsung LTM190E4) - Thin bezel - DVI-I and D-SUB

NEC LCD1990SX - 19", 8ms, PVA (Samsung LTM190E4) - DVI-D, DVI-I, D-SUB

NEC LCD1990SXi - 19", 18ms, S-IPS (LG.Philips LM190E05) - DVI-D, DVI-I, D-SUB

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Re: NEC Multisync LCD

Post by Forgottenmyname » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:38 pm

Picked one of these up on ebay for £10.

Wish I'd had one of these before, quality is great for the ST. I bet they were expensive when new.

Thanks for the suggestion.

P.S. Whats the round port near the power cable for?

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Re: NEC Multisync LCD

Post by Petari » Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:34 am

I looked about those NEC monitors couple years ago in Hungary. Very rare here. Found only 1, not close. And they asked too much for. What is btw. bad habbit here, in second hand shops too - some complete average, 17 inch, about 10 years old LCD costs 25-30 Euros. So, that NEC would cost me about 100 Euros with shipping, what is price of brandnew full HD monitor. I just used TV card on PC for Atari color mode, what is pretty much good with S-Video output.
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Re: TT Software overscan?

Post by mikro » Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:57 am

Atarian Computing wrote:
Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:54 pm
one monitor turned out to be a slightly inferior 1990SX
Looking at your table below this post how come this is slightly inferior? LCD1990SX seems to have both digital and analog DVI and faster response time so in my eyes looks far more superior than the FX?

While on the topic, what model would you recommend more, the FX or FXp?

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Re: TT Software overscan?

Post by Atarian Computing » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:36 am

mikro wrote:
Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:57 am
Atarian Computing wrote:
Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:54 pm
one monitor turned out to be a slightly inferior 1990SX
Looking at your table below this post how come this is slightly inferior? LCD1990SX seems to have both digital and analog DVI and faster response time so in my eyes looks far more superior than the FX?

While on the topic, what model would you recommend more, the FX or FXp?
SX and FXp both have PVA displays, so despite the SX having a faster response time (good for modern FPS games) IPS, which the FX has, is always the better display. Also, while the SX probably has some features over the FX, the mere existence of the SXi makes the SX "slightly inferior" because SXi is what you would absolutely get if not the FX. So the SXi is the top tier display in this range. But mine doesn't do 15khz so the FX reigns supreme with ST and SXi with TT.

In terms of FX vs FXp, if you don't mind PVA, you get thinner bezels on the FXp than the FX. Not sure about features, but I understand the FX to be the higher tier display. Don't know about FXp and 15khz. Here is the FXp at NEC's website: https://www.necdisplay.com/p/displays/lcd1990fxp-bk

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Re: NEC Multisync LCD

Post by Atarian Computing » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:44 am

Forgottenmyname wrote:
Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:38 pm
Picked one of these up on ebay for £10.

Wish I'd had one of these before, quality is great for the ST. I bet they were expensive when new.

Thanks for the suggestion.

P.S. Whats the round port near the power cable for?
"DC out for optional NEC products such as the Soundbar attachment. Do not use this connector unless specified"

So you got the SX or SXi?

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