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Re: Ideas to create other languages versions of updated TOS

Post by Petari » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:48 pm

Here is it in Spanish:
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I replaced RSCs, initial Desktop.inf , keyboard tables to those from Spanish 1.04 . It may be that something plus about Alt key will be necessary.
Please test for correct keyboard input - with some text editors if possible .
Note, this is just test version, not complete 1.05 .
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Re: Ideas to create other languages versions of updated TOS

Post by Petari » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:02 pm

Will this be better than Infogrames Atari logo ?
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Re: Ideas to create other languages versions of updated TOS

Post by exxos » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:11 pm

I think some people like him not so much :P Have a picture of me instead ;) :lol:
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Re: Ideas to create other languages versions of updated TOS

Post by Petari » Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:06 am

Surely. whatever man does, there will be 'some' people not liking it. If you want to satisfy everyone will finish with not satisfying anyone.
So, there will be something unseen yet - Atari logo redesigned by my twisted brain and clumsy hand :D
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Re: Ideas to create other languages versions of updated TOS

Post by crashman » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:20 am

Tested Spanish version on real hardware.
That version hasn’t the ide driver inside, right?
Booting from floppy ok.
Tested with 1stword and keys are fine.
Tested the deadkey soft for spanish and also ok.
One thing I noticed is that on sysinfo it says UK.
Don’t know if it could be any problem if some soft
Tries to set language according to what TOS says...
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Re: Ideas to create other languages versions of updated TOS

Post by crashman » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:22 am

And btw... I’m the one not liking that Atari logo.

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Re: Ideas to create other languages versions of updated TOS

Post by Petari » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:35 am

As said "this is just test version, not complete 1.05 ." There is lot of work to do yet. Other language versions need to solve some new problems.
I asked for testing input, because there is some short extra code in Spanish TOS, what seems to activate when Alt is pressed, during keyboard input.
It may be that some special characters can be entered only when Alt is held down ? I really can not know everything, and people using those language versions can test it better ...
With some OS things much be done much more carefully, with much more testings than with some game or utility. When something new comes to implement, it's best to test only it - so changing only that part of regular TOS. When it is OK, can add to final version. And since here we have at least 10 things modded/added, it takes time.

I know that you are who wrote at YT :D Here is my vision of Atari logo for ST serial :
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Re: Ideas to create other languages versions of updated TOS

Post by IngoQ » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:38 am

I beg of you please use the original Atari logo :cry: Let's say for nostalgic reasons, okay? :)
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Re: Ideas to create other languages versions of updated TOS

Post by exxos » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:48 am

FWIW - I thought the red logo was fine.. probably not same as TOS206 logo, but think default is low res for TOS104 so some resolution lost likely anyway.
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Re: Ideas to create other languages versions of updated TOS

Post by Petari » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:06 pm

Folks, this is not voting :D Classic Atari logo is indicator that it is TOS 2.06 - so out of consid.
Red logo must be not red, as said. But it appeared that it is logo done by Infogrames, when it bought Atari (game division, or what left) - that's surely not OK for old machine, regardless from look.
I need to keep size of logo in ROM under 1KB (packed), so no space for some better resolutions. At least in case of 1.04.
In 1.62 is much more space, so there can add even small video :D Not entirely a joke: I was confused when seen sizes of 2 latest YT videos:
26 sec MKV video of AUTO start of D-Day is 58843 bytes only. This new codecs (H264 here) are really very efficient. Of course, useless on slow Atari, or even on some 100 MHz CT accel.
Possible to add some effect for showing logo, like random dissolve, but I don't think that it's good idea.

Ah, most important: since this will be commercial (at least versions with FAT16 impr. and Virtual Floppy) individual wishes can be considere$ :idea:

P.S. my original idea was to use photo of Shiraz Shivji where he holds prototype board in hand - actually multiple boards placed radially - little like * It was maybe 6 of them. But couldn't find it with Google.
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