Falcon 030 vs STE

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Re: Falcon 030 vs STE

Post by KyleB » Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:06 pm

What's the read MB/s of A1200 fast ram? So we know where we stand between both machines with a realistic config, 4MB each.

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Re: Falcon 030 vs STE

Post by Cyprian » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:43 pm

yep, obviously fastram is faster than chipram.
Both machines can be extended with more ram, better cpu. e.g CT60 or Vampire.
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Re: Falcon 030 vs STE

Post by DrF » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:45 pm

According to my plain Amiga 1200 fast ram only card boxes (Hawk 8Mb and some 4Mb card),no cpus, they claim that just by adding the card performance jumped 2x to 2.5x
Adding 1 to a plain A1200 makes a huge difference.

Now about them PC card slot memory cards that used to be about... adding one of those slows the A1200 down, I presume because its a 16bit bus?

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Re: Falcon 030 vs STE

Post by KyleB » Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:02 pm

^ yep. PC Card slot only made sense for ethernet or squirrel scsi on 1200. though I briefly had a 600 with PC Card fastram and it did me no harm (accidentally wiring up the power connector in mirror image did though). A proper trapdoor fastram card releases an incredible amount of power.

Really Commodore should've made it 28Mhz, and heavily promoted fastram. EC020s cost next to nowt. But they were saving that for The Greatest Amiga Never Sold.
Cyprian wrote:
Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:43 pm
yep, obviously fastram is faster than chipram.
Lets say that "A1200 was a mess", then what we could say about slower falcon? :D

No point going into CPU upgrades, overclocks etc just stock vs stock with equal amount memory fitted, it's the only way. When you start going into CT60SUPERVIDEL or A1200 towers or whatever it no longer has anything to do with what Atari corp or CBM were trying to do.

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Re: Falcon 030 vs STE

Post by Cyprian » Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:23 pm

KyleB wrote:
Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:02 pm
Lets say that "A1200 was a mess", then what we could say about slower falcon?
KyleB wrote:
Fri Aug 03, 2018 1:09 am
I always imagined the falcon was a mess, but here we are...

well, maybe "falcon was a mess" but still stock 16bit Falcon is faster than stock 32bit A1200.

if you wish, we can also compare expanded machines.
and yep, till now, expanded Falcon (CT60/100) is still faster than expanded with A1200.
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Re: Falcon 030 vs STE

Post by exxos » Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:28 pm

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Re: Falcon 030 vs STE

Post by Rustynutt » Mon May 31, 2021 8:55 am

exxos wrote:
Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:28 am
Cyprian wrote:
Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:22 am
NVDI turns the BLiTTER off.
Wonder how it does it ?
Cyprian wrote:
Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:22 am
can pls you compare STE with NVDI vs Falcon with NVDI?
I only have floppy on my falcon at the moment, so not a simple task to setup :(
I'm not so sure it's actually disabled, think NVDI replaces its function. May be incorrectly using the term, it prolly intercepts when the COMBEL goes to use it.
Sure a much better explanation :)
EmuTOS can be compiled without Blitter too.

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