MSTE vs STE TOS206

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Re: MSTE vs STE TOS206

Post by KyleB » Thu Aug 02, 2018 2:27 pm

For completeness sake, with NVDI 5.03. All 16Mhz Cache on.

Blitter on
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The mono results show blitter and NVDI together do improve performance, but in colour it makes no effect. My regular STE is packed away for now so I can't see how that behaves in comparison.

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Re: MSTE vs STE TOS206

Post by exxos » Thu Aug 02, 2018 2:40 pm

Thanks, Really should have a benchmark of NVDI without cache enabled, then use that as a default test in GB6, then enable the caches to see what the actual speed up with NVDI with caches on actually is.
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Re: MSTE vs STE TOS206

Post by KyleB » Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:13 pm

That's a good idea, unfortunately my ShiteDisk proceeded to throw a wobbler... Really getting tired of these unreliable SD card solutions but I can't find a small scsi hard disc anywhere for a reasonable price.

anyway we've still got most of the result numbers, 16Mhz cache off, blitter on

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Looks like quite a big jump to me.

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Re: MSTE vs STE TOS206

Post by exxos » Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:38 pm

245% - 176% = 69% increase in speed with cache & NVDI.
4MB STFM 1.44 FD- VELOCE+ 020 STE - 4MB STE 32MHz - STFM 16MHz - STM - MEGA ST - Falcon 030 CT60 - Atari 2600 - Atari 7800 - Gigafile - SD Floppy Emulator - PeST - HxC - CosmosEx - Ultrasatan - various clutter

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Re: MSTE vs STE TOS206

Post by Petari » Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:44 pm

KyleB wrote:
Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:13 pm
... Really getting tired of these unreliable SD card solutions but I can't find a small scsi hard disc anywhere for a reasonable price.
...
I had contact with many UltraSatan users and 99% is very satisfied. Problems were with crap SD cards - bought online usually, and inproper PSU.
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Re: MSTE vs STE TOS206

Post by KyleB » Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:02 pm

99% ultrasatan owners satisfied, okay but I don't have one of those. I have a satandisk with a "crap SD card", which I didn't know, because they don't write that on the box.

Okay, so, ranked averages:

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16Mhz, Colour,  Cache off, Blitter on,    TOS: 114%
16Mhz, Colour,  Cache on,  Blitter on,    TOS: 147%
 8Mhz, Colour,  FAST ROM,  Blitter on,   NVDI: 156%
16Mhz, Colour,  Cache off, Blitter on,   NVDI: 176%
32Mhz, Colour,  FAST ROM,  blitter on,    TOS: 203%
16Mhz, Colour,  Cache on,  Blitter off,  NVDI: 245%
16Mhz, Colour,  Cache on,  Blitter on,   NVDI: 245%
32Mhz, Colour,  FAST ROM,  Blitter on,   NVDI: 256%
16Mhz, Mono,    Cache on,  Blitter off,  NVDI: 257%
16Mhz, Mono,    Cache on,  Blitter on,   NVDI: 269%
8/32Mhz are exxos' boosted STE results from this thread.

So 32Mhz with fast TOS access is a little quicker than 16Mhz with a cache. Alright well, for the sake of curiosity, how do we go about overclocking a MSTE?

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Re: MSTE vs STE TOS206

Post by exxos » Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:20 pm

:bravo:

I will see if I can hook up the 40MHz booster with NVDI and see how it fairs..


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for the sake of curiosity, how do we go about overclocking a MSTE?
Rodolphe (who also moderator here) is working on a 020 & 030 booster for MSTE..

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Re: MSTE vs STE TOS206

Post by KyleB » Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:29 pm

Sensible for you to stick with the common ones, but a pity for those of us who went and bought the best... which is the worst for these kinds of thing. Not so sure I like the idea of 020s in a MSTE just sounds like a TT with worse graphics.

With 40Mhz you'll definitely have pushed it to the limit of a booster without cache.

Actually come think of it does anyone have gembench scores from a TT or Falc? so we know where we are in the grander scheme.

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Re: MSTE vs STE TOS206

Post by exxos » Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:33 pm

Falcon results were in GB6, but I dont think anyones posted a benchmark of it yet... I have a few mins so will try and connect my falcon up see if I can do it... I guess in comparison to what though a ST or STE ? Guess could do both, but as it has blitter, STE might be better..
4MB STFM 1.44 FD- VELOCE+ 020 STE - 4MB STE 32MHz - STFM 16MHz - STM - MEGA ST - Falcon 030 CT60 - Atari 2600 - Atari 7800 - Gigafile - SD Floppy Emulator - PeST - HxC - CosmosEx - Ultrasatan - various clutter

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Re: MSTE vs STE TOS206

Post by KyleB » Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:11 pm

Out of curiosity I benchmarked Magic and NVDI on the MSTE

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I'd read on atari-forum that it was faster than pure TOS. After a result like this I uninstalled it immediately. On holiday now so the last post I'll be making for a while I think.

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