End of all TF (Amiga) projects
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Re: End of all TF (Amiga) projects
Just to say that my YT channel will probably stay gone long term. Its something I stopped enjoying a while back and for various other reasons i would like to decrease my social media presence. This was just a good excuse tbh.
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"It is not necessarily a supply voltage at no load, but the amount of current it can provide when touched that
indicates how much hurting you shall receive."
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indicates how much hurting you shall receive."
Re: End of all TF (Amiga) projects
Anti social media it is, thenterriblefire wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:52 am Just to say that my YT channel will probably stay gone long term. Its something I stopped enjoying a while back and for various other reasons i would like to decrease my social media presence. This was just a good excuse tbh.
Regarding JLCPCB I was hoping to find that they f*cked up their permissions and used the production code on the PCB for the download.
Looking at a couple of PCB's I've ordered it seems the production code contains all the info you'd need; 2173945A_Y19_200822, where 2173945A is a unique customer number, Y19 indicates that it's my 19th order and 200822 is the order date in YYMMDD. So if you'd just find a security hole somewhere on their site it might be possible.
Still hoping that they have a shitty website instead of them leaking stuff on purpose. If the gerbers came from them, that is.
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Re: End of all TF (Amiga) projects
There arent many options ... assuming that this guy has the gerbers and isnt just photoshopping...
Myself, Matze and Hase all have had boards pirated by this clown. Matze uses Gitlab, i have a private repo on my home network. The only common point is JLCPCB.
I''m not convinced thats a sanding job.. even with sanding the board is sooo tight to DRC specs that it would be very difficult to reproduce accurately without essentially retracing every track manually. Which may have happened but the reproduction looks too accurate.
Im sure its either is a JLC leak or its photoshopped.
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"It is not necessarily a supply voltage at no load, but the amount of current it can provide when touched that
indicates how much hurting you shall receive."
"It is not necessarily a supply voltage at no load, but the amount of current it can provide when touched that
indicates how much hurting you shall receive."
Re: End of all TF (Amiga) projects
Have you seen any images of this cloned board working? Any screen images? Have you had anyone contact you to say Yes that they have purchased a board?terriblefire wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:07 pm I''m not convinced thats a sanding job.. even with sanding the board is sooo tight to DRC specs that it would be very difficult to reproduce accurately
I only wonder if this is all bait and bullsh*t...
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Re: End of all TF (Amiga) projects
Nobody has replied. I suspect we shut him down too soon.matt020 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:49 pmHave you seen any images of this cloned board working? Any screen images? Have you had anyone contact you to say Yes that they have purchased a board?terriblefire wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:07 pm I''m not convinced thats a sanding job.. even with sanding the board is sooo tight to DRC specs that it would be very difficult to reproduce accurately
I only wonder if this is all bait and bullsh*t...
Not sure what he gains from baiting. I know users like **** were backing this guy and attacked the people who told me about.
@exxos i can see tracks on that image... they match up with a real board and there are trace shadows where the logo should be.
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"It is not necessarily a supply voltage at no load, but the amount of current it can provide when touched that
indicates how much hurting you shall receive."
"It is not necessarily a supply voltage at no load, but the amount of current it can provide when touched that
indicates how much hurting you shall receive."
Re: End of all TF (Amiga) projects
You... shutting down your work... is what he gains. Getting a reaction from you is what he gains. Possible financial gain if he can reproduce the boards cheaper (?) is what he gains. "Teaching you a lesson" is what he gains.
And as it unfolded, I think he had it won, all of the above were happening in his favour!! And then I think we saw it backfire as we see from posts on Amibay...
I was hoping I didn't need to go into that level of detail, however...
Re: End of all TF (Amiga) projects
There could still be some residual traces.. Because a real PCB has them of course.. but there looks to be to much smudging going on.. The smudges look the same which, so either it is a paintbrush, or the guy has extremely greasy fingers... Even so to me the top of the PLD looks smudged out...terriblefire wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:02 pm @exxos i can see tracks on that image... they match up with a real board and there are trace shadows where the logo should be.
The only way to prove this would be to get a couple of black PCBs made yourself, and take exactly the same angled shots as the fake boards and see if you can see the tracks on that image clearly or not...
I don't think the image taken is of too bad of a resolution to cover up the entire board tracks, as I said, motherboard traces are clearly visible even though they are further away from the camera, but even a black PCB, while it can make the tracks harder to see, you should still be able to make them out a lot more clearly than in the image IMO.
I could be wrong, is probably a whole lot easier to photoshop the board than go to the trouble of reverse engineering...And I think probably still more plausible than a gerber leak somewhere... I guess you could always email him and ask who leaked in the Gerbers ? is not like he did not reply to you before...
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Re: End of all TF (Amiga) projects
I also doubt its a sanding job, because there is no reason reproduce the complete silkscreen and only omit the logo.
Re: End of all TF (Amiga) projects
I have looked at the silkscreen, and it looks too perfect to be a engineered copy... So it is either a leaked Gerber file somewhere(I really don't see any way he could have gotten them) , or photoshop IMO.
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viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1585 Have you done the Mandatory Fixes ?
Just because a lot of people agree on something, doesn't make it a fact. ~exxos ~
People should find solutions to problems, not find problems with solutions.
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viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1585 Have you done the Mandatory Fixes ?
Just because a lot of people agree on something, doesn't make it a fact. ~exxos ~
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Re: End of all TF (Amiga) projects
Wondering if this was a social engineering attempt to scam cash from a bad sentiment. that image... i wonder if its even his ...
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"It is not necessarily a supply voltage at no load, but the amount of current it can provide when touched that
indicates how much hurting you shall receive."
"It is not necessarily a supply voltage at no load, but the amount of current it can provide when touched that
indicates how much hurting you shall receive."