End of all TF (Amiga) projects

Help & news on accelerators from TF, Amiga, Atari, CD32 etc

Moderators: terriblefire, Terriblefire Moderator

User avatar
kamil.szarmach
Posts: 11
Joined: Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:29 pm

Re: End of all TF (Amiga) projects

Post by kamil.szarmach » Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:56 pm

tzok wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:11 pm
There still is a reseller who gathers orders, buys your TF cards in UK and sends them to Poland, yet for most Polish people, your products are beyond financial range, so it is not a huge market.
XD what?
I paid 550zł (~120Ł) for ready to use TF536. It's a bargain for 030 A500 turbo.
terriblefire wrote:Now Polish people will need to buy from Jens or CSLabs.
I hope that your distrubutors/producers (@alenppc , @supaduper, @chucky ) will send them worldwide.
After all of this i kinda wanna try to use TF360 and TF1260 with LC060 and write some stuff for them.

User avatar
JackTheKnife
Posts: 4
Joined: Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:36 pm

Re: End of all TF (Amiga) projects

Post by JackTheKnife » Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:58 pm

terriblefire wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:44 am
kludge wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:27 am
I've been following your projects since the 520/530 days, and I'm sad to see what started as an open source line of affordable accelerators for people to learn from has now boiled down to something much less. Don't get me wrong; the technology is awesome and the accelerators are great, but for me, the great value of it was the open source side of things. I was really sad when the TF534 was the last board to be fully open sourced, but I found some comfort in that at least the TF536, TF330 and later boards at least would have freely available gerbers and jed:s, so that anyone could build them. For
Not to be pedantic but since April the TF330 was fully opened. Schematics, verilog.. everything. I'm sure someone has a fork of it on github somewhere.
Yeah - is there any fork of it? Got few board from OSVG and never thought that project will disappear from the github :(

PaulJ_2.0
Posts: 405
Joined: Sat May 11, 2019 11:32 pm

Re: End of all TF (Amiga) projects

Post by PaulJ_2.0 » Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:08 pm

JackTheKnife wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:58 pm
Yeah - is there any fork of it? Got few board from OSVG and never thought that project will disappear from the github :(
Github has a search function :)

User avatar
JackTheKnife
Posts: 4
Joined: Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:36 pm

Re: End of all TF (Amiga) projects

Post by JackTheKnife » Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:11 pm

terriblefire wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:26 am
I have thought about a few things and i have come up with a "wind down" strategy. Hopefully it will keep everyone happy.

TF360 will get produced by supaduper and alenppc only

TF1260... Chucky/AlenPPC and Supaduper will have options to sell these in built form only. They decide who to sell to.

TF536... Rev2 will be on sale via AlenPPC and Exxos until they exhaust themselves or demand then I will offer the gerbers to AmigaStore.eu to continue producing them in built form.
Sounds like a good plan to go for. At least here in the States @alenppc will keep it alive. Also I have good experience with getting stuff from Chucky, even during the covid times.

alenppc
Moderator Team
Moderator Team
Posts: 598
Joined: Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:59 pm

Re: End of all TF (Amiga) projects

Post by alenppc » Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:20 pm

JackTheKnife wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:11 pm

Sounds like a good plan to go for. At least here in the States @alenppc will keep it alive. Also I have good experience with getting stuff from Chucky, even during the covid times.
I am super pleased to hear this and I can assure you I will make the cheapest 060 board the world has ever seen... I will of course ship anywhere and Jens might find himself puzzled as to why there is little demand for a 500 euro 1240.

User avatar
arkadiusz.makarenko
Trusted Guru
Trusted Guru
Posts: 558
Joined: Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:36 am
Location: Edinburgh

Re: End of all TF (Amiga) projects

Post by arkadiusz.makarenko » Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:30 pm

tzok wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:11 pm
...yet for most Polish people, your products are beyond financial range...
That is the reason why TF decision (which I agree 100% with btw) to not to release sources might be the most painful.
Not because some people might loose on current card revisions and/or distribution, but all future spin offs based on it.

For example
TF536 is 50Mhz card, and CPUs cost is about £30+. Potentially there could be 40Mhz version of a card where you could easily use plastic 33Mhz 030s for £6. This combined with more risky Chinese sources of cplds and RAMs could lead to sub 300PLN card. This path is unfortunately closed now.

We did see it with Edu 8MB version of TF328 for A1200 - which disappeared from guthub for similar reason.

And of course value version of Tf330.


Arek
Do not trust people. They are capable of greatness.
~ Stanislaw Lem

User avatar
kludge
Posts: 386
Joined: Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:05 pm
Location: Sweden
Contact:

Re: End of all TF (Amiga) projects

Post by kludge » Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:33 pm

arkadiusz.makarenko wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:30 pm
For example
TF536 is 50Mhz card, and CPUs cost is about £30+. Potentially there could be 40Mhz version of a card where you could easily use plastic 33Mhz 030s for £6.
Yeah. A 33-40 MHz version of 536 and 330 would have been awesome :)
A kludge is a workaround or quick-and-dirty solution that is clumsy, inelegant, inefficient, difficult to extend and hard to maintain.

My lack of focus:
[ 4 * Amiga 500 ][ Amiga 500+ ][ 2 * Amiga 600 ][ A1200 ][ Amiga 2000 w/ A2386 ][ Amiga 4000/030 w/ CyberVision 64 3D, FastLane SCSI Z3 ][ CD32 ][ VIC-20 ][ 4 * C64 Breadbin ][ 5 * C64C ][ 2 * C128 ][ C128D ][ C64 DTV ][ Mac Classic ][ Mac Classic II ][ Mac Colour Classic ]

User avatar
kamil.szarmach
Posts: 11
Joined: Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:29 pm

Re: End of all TF (Amiga) projects

Post by kamil.szarmach » Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:09 pm

alenppc wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:20 pm
I am super pleased to hear this and I can assure you I will make the cheapest 060 board the world has ever seen... I will of course ship anywhere and Jens might find himself puzzled as to why there is little demand for a 500 euro 1240.
I'm traveling to Florida often so maybe i'll get 360 and 1260 from you :D

alenppc
Moderator Team
Moderator Team
Posts: 598
Joined: Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:59 pm

Re: End of all TF (Amiga) projects

Post by alenppc » Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:51 pm

kamil.szarmach wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:09 pm
alenppc wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:20 pm
I am super pleased to hear this and I can assure you I will make the cheapest 060 board the world has ever seen... I will of course ship anywhere and Jens might find himself puzzled as to why there is little demand for a 500 euro 1240.
I'm traveling to Florida often so maybe i'll get 360 and 1260 from you :D
I would honestly avoid going to Florida any time soon unless you really want to get Covid :)

tzok
Posts: 216
Joined: Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:27 pm

Re: End of all TF (Amiga) projects

Post by tzok » Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:41 pm

JackTheKnife wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:58 pm
Yeah - is there any fork of it? Got few board from OSVG and never thought that project will disappear from the github :(
Yes, TF328, TF330, TF530, and TF534 repositories have been forked, and forks are still available. Binaries are on the TF's official GitHub.

Locked

Return to “Terriblefire's channel”