Fake TF536s Bounty (Bound Edition)

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Re: Fake TF536s Bounty (Bound Edition)

Post by Homer79 » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:11 pm

Just for reference, This is a picture of a JLCPCB black TF530 PCB. The other traces on the other side of
the board have disappeared. So I guess it would be up to the quality of the camera taking the picture

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Re: Fake TF536s Bounty (Bound Edition)

Post by bnice7 » Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:24 am

Has anyone ever used or have access to the jlcpcb API? I did some googling, and from what I can tell it seems this is something new from them, with the article announcing the feature dated July 7, 2020:

https://support.jlcpcb.com/article/71-jlc-api-solution

I'm wondering if this seemingly new API is buggy and maybe a potential source for the leak. I can't find much other info. about it, and I don't even have a jlcpcb login since I've never ordered anything from them before.

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Re: Fake TF536s Bounty (Bound Edition)

Post by exxos » Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:14 pm

Homer79 wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:11 pm
Just for reference, This is a picture of a JLCPCB black TF530 PCB. The other traces on the other side of
the board have disappeared. So I guess it would be up to the quality of the camera taking the picture
It's possible I guess, though the motherboard traces of visible clearly been further away from the camera...But I guess a camera could be pretty crap in "near black" areas. Still doesn't explain the smudging looking in some areas tho.


bnice7 wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:24 am
Has anyone ever used or have access to the jlcpcb API? I did some googling, and from what I can tell it seems this is something new from them, with the article announcing the feature dated July 7, 2020:

https://support.jlcpcb.com/article/71-jlc-api-solution

I'm wondering if this seemingly new API is buggy and maybe a potential source for the leak. I can't find much other info. about it, and I don't even have a jlcpcb login since I've never ordered anything from them before.

I have not heard of that one...

I have contacted JLC about the order numbers actually printed on the boards...
about the reorder question, our customer can only re-order the orders in their own account,and they can not reorder it if the order is not his even if he has the order number.
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Re: Fake TF536s Bounty (Bound Edition)

Post by exxos » Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:42 pm

Some more ponders...

A "fault" in the silk screen... Which was on the TF boards, but also on the fake ones.. if actually cloning a board, why bother to re-create a fault...

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Also some odd pixelation on top of the CPU..

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But it looks like the CE was also removed, but also looks like the end of the E is still there as a lighter block, which also looks mirrored to the left.. where they should be nothing there as no text etc..

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Also, granted the PCB is angled, why do the 4 buffer chips look straight, and not angled, but also look staggered to the left.. That doesn't make sense... could just be pixelation I guess... but the angle of the PCB is pretty steep...

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As others said, he seems to have boards which he shouldn't have.. so again either leaked from JLC or hes photoshopped all the boards.. I haven't see any other of the "fake" images of other items he was selling.. but I am still leaning towards photoshopped ..
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Re: Fake TF536s Bounty (Bound Edition)

Post by GadgetUK164 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:19 pm

I am leaning towards the fact it may be someone trying to take a load of pre-order money in advance. He probably planned to just not fullfil orders, or send out original TF536's once the gerbers became available.

I would expect that imperfection to have been removed if he had the gerbers. It's too obvious.
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Re: Fake TF536s Bounty (Bound Edition)

Post by terriblefire » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:53 pm

GadgetUK164 wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:19 pm
I would expect that imperfection to have been removed if he had the gerbers. It's too obvious.
Unless he missed it. He removed the CE mark, Trash Can and TF Logo.
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Re: Fake TF536s Bounty (Bound Edition)

Post by terriblefire » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:06 am

Ok i've found where this guy works. Its a CAM setup that looks like it has equipment that could be used to remove PCB layers very accurately and scan them. I think this guy is using expensive equipment at his work to do this.

Interestingly the listed customers of this business usually have requirements to only use businesses that act with integrity. :D

Unfortunately the only option to stop this guy is to get him fired.
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Re: Fake TF536s Bounty (Bound Edition)

Post by exxos » Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:22 am

I'm sure his employer would be interested to know how many times IP theft has been committed.. Unless they know and don't care..
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Re: Fake TF536s Bounty (Bound Edition)

Post by adam » Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:01 am

terriblefire wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:06 am
Ok i've found where this guy works.
Automotive industry?

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Re: Fake TF536s Bounty (Bound Edition)

Post by GadgetUK164 » Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:09 pm

terriblefire wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:06 am
Ok i've found where this guy works. Its a CAM setup that looks like it has equipment that could be used to remove PCB layers very accurately and scan them. I think this guy is using expensive equipment at his work to do this.

Interestingly the listed customers of this business usually have requirements to only use businesses that act with integrity. :D

Unfortunately the only option to stop this guy is to get him fired.
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