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Re: ST-IDE-ROM Dev Board v1 - BETA Testers

Post by rubber_jonnie » Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:35 pm

I am interested, but as also in for one of smonsons shifter boards, cost will play a part. Are you able to give me an idea of how much it'll be?

I've got a couple of boards well placed as test rigs, including one with a PAK 68/20 which would be quite interesting to try it out on.
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Re: ST-IDE-ROM Dev Board v1 - BETA Testers

Post by exxos » Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:29 pm

rubber_jonnie wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:35 pm
I am interested, but as also in for one of smonsons shifter boards, cost will play a part. Are you able to give me an idea of how much it'll be?
The IDE board will be less than £10 I imagine, its not going to include many parts.
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Re: ST-IDE-ROM Dev Board v1 - BETA Testers

Post by rubber_jonnie » Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:37 pm

exxos wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:29 pm
rubber_jonnie wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:35 pm
I am interested, but as also in for one of smonsons shifter boards, cost will play a part. Are you able to give me an idea of how much it'll be?
The IDE board will be less than £10 I imagine, its not going to include many parts.
In that case, I'm in too.
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800XL + Ultimate 1MB, 2x 1010 cassette, 1050 + Happy mod, 65XE (128k +APE Warp) & XC12, SIO2SD, 2600jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Atari 520ST (1Meg), 1040STF long button floppy, 2x 1040 STFMs + Gotek, 2x 4160STE with 32Mhz booster, ROM switcher, Mega ST1, Mega ST4, not to mention various bare ST boards for testing including a PAK 68/2 :)
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Re: ST-IDE-ROM Dev Board v1 - BETA Testers

Post by PhilC » Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:10 pm

Btw, do you have a list of what you've tested yet? I've got a few bits and pieces lined up when I buy the kit.
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Re: ST-IDE-ROM Dev Board v1 - BETA Testers

Post by exxos » Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:18 pm

Forgottenmyname wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:10 pm
Btw, do you have a list of what you've tested yet? I've got a few bits and pieces lined up when I buy the kit.
Not yet, its on my "to do list".. I will start a new thread on it Monday.
4MB STFM 1.44 FD- VELOCE+ 020 STE - 4MB STE 32MHz - STFM 16MHz - STM - MEGA ST - Falcon 030 CT60 - Atari 2600 - Atari 7800 - Gigafile - SD Floppy Emulator - PeST - HxC - CosmosEx - Ultrasatan - various clutter

https://www.exxoshost.co.uk/atari/ All my hardware guides - mods - games - STOS
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Re: ST-IDE-ROM Dev Board v1 - BETA Testers

Post by PhilC » Sun Mar 03, 2019 7:34 pm

One box full of random IDE drives acquired, ready to try and break the IDE board :D
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Re: ST-IDE-ROM Dev Board v1 - BETA Testers

Post by rubber_jonnie » Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:30 pm

Forgottenmyname wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2019 7:34 pm
One box full of random IDE drives acquired, ready to try and break the IDE board :D
Got some random laptop drives and an IDE to CF adapter and a couple of cards that need playing with.
Collector of old Atari things:
800XL + Ultimate 1MB, 2x 1010 cassette, 1050 + Happy mod, 65XE (128k +APE Warp) & XC12, SIO2SD, 2600jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Atari 520ST (1Meg), 1040STF long button floppy, 2x 1040 STFMs + Gotek, 2x 4160STE with 32Mhz booster, ROM switcher, Mega ST1, Mega ST4, not to mention various bare ST boards for testing including a PAK 68/2 :)
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Amiga stuff, Mac stuff, Sinclair stuff etc...
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Re: ST-IDE-ROM Dev Board v1 - BETA Testers

Post by Icky » Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:42 am

Here are some tips on how to setup your DEV boards for BETA testing

Grabbing the ACSI_10 line:

We need to tap off of Pin 10 of the ACSI connector port. I found the best way on my ST was to trace Pin 10 from the connector and find a via which was near the printer connector on this board. Putting a single header connector in the via allows for easy connection or you can disconnect if not using the IDE board.

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Patching the board:

So this wouldn't be a DEV board without some patches so you will need to cut two tracks and put in two patch wires.

The picture below shows the two patch wires and track cut on the bottom side of the board. Cut the track where the ORANGE mark is and put in two patch wires marked in YELLOW and PINK.

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One more track cut is needed on the top side of the board.

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Sorting out the IDE header:

When putting in the IDE header don't run it all the way along, leave out the 5V and GND near the middle / top of the board. Use a header from the bottom of the board to provide the power rails to the IDE device.

Also you will have to remove one of the pins in the IDE header where the key is. Its easy to spot as there is no hole in the board there.

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Plugging in the board

Plug the board into the DIL socket where your CPU used to be for me I only needed one more extra socket in the stack to get the right height to clear the other components on the ST.

Plug the ACSI_10 line in and also plug in your IDE device and power it from the power header.

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Additional tips on the board

The below picture shows you where to plug in the ACSI_10 line.

For the resistor networks this one shows 4116R's but instead you can just solder resistors in the holes instead using 4116R's.

The TOS select jumper is the left most jumper on the board where you can switch between TOS104 and TOS206.

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Good luck with your builds when you get your boards :)

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Re: ST-IDE-ROM Dev Board v1 - BETA Testers

Post by Icky » Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:47 am

Small Update:

We have been doing more tests with the board and other devices connected. With a few tweaks to the firmware we have refined the interface a little more and are now looking forward for the BETA testing to begin.

Below is a parts list for the board:

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Part			Value		Package			Comments	
27C4096		27C4096			PLCC-44		
68000 		PLUG PINS		DIL64		
ATF1504AS	ATF1504AS-10AUJU84_TH	PLCC84_TH		Or can use ATF1508AS but is more expensive	
C1 - C5		1uf			C025-024X044		
C8		100uf			CE-025X085		
IC1		74LS245N		DIL20		
IC2		74LS245N		DIL20		
IDE-44		IDE-44-HEADER		HEADER 2 Rows, 20 Pos	
JP1		ACSI_10			HEADER 1 Row, 1 Pos		
JP2		PLD-BREAKOUT		HEADER 2 Rows, 6 Pos
JTAG		JTAG-ALTERA-10-PIN	HEADER 2 Ros, 5 Pos
LED1					LED5MM		
R1		1K			0204/7		
R2		100R			0204/7		
R3		10K			0204/7		
R4 - R15	100R			0204/7		
RN1		100R			DIL16			Can be replaced with 8x 100R resistors	
RN2		100R			DIL16			Can be replaced with 8x 100R resistors	
RN4		10K			SIL9		
SELECT1					HEADER 1 Row, 3 Pos		
SELECT2					HEADER 1 Row, 3 Pos		
TOS_SELECT				HEADER 1 Row, 3 Pos		
68000 SOCKET	SOCKET			DIL64

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Re: ST-IDE-ROM Dev Board v1 - BETA Testers

Post by rubber_jonnie » Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:21 am

Sweet, probably already have some of this list :)
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800XL + Ultimate 1MB, 2x 1010 cassette, 1050 + Happy mod, 65XE (128k +APE Warp) & XC12, SIO2SD, 2600jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Atari 520ST (1Meg), 1040STF long button floppy, 2x 1040 STFMs + Gotek, 2x 4160STE with 32Mhz booster, ROM switcher, Mega ST1, Mega ST4, not to mention various bare ST boards for testing including a PAK 68/2 :)
Plus the rest..
Amiga stuff, Mac stuff, Sinclair stuff etc...
www.electronicnothingness.co.uk

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