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Re: Project: HDMI/DVI out for STFM

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:37 pm
by exxos
Icky wrote: Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:12 am I have a working STFM arriving in the next few days so will try the board out on that one too. If I am still having issues I will send my DVI board to exxos to check on his STFM to see if it is working there.
:thumbup:

I forgot (Again sorry) what you was using before, think it was the "ST" and STF remake ? So STFM would be good as its what I tried it out on.

Re: Project: HDMI/DVI out for STFM

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:55 pm
by Icky
exxos wrote: Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:37 pm
Icky wrote: Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:12 am I have a working STFM arriving in the next few days so will try the board out on that one too. If I am still having issues I will send my DVI board to exxos to check on his STFM to see if it is working there.
:thumbup:

I forgot (Again sorry) what you was using before, think it was the "ST" and STF remake ? So STFM would be good as its what I tried it out on.
Problem exists on 520ST and STF Remake so as you say trying on an STFM would be good.

Re: Project: HDMI/DVI out for STFM

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:44 pm
by Icky
Icky wrote: Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:55 pm
exxos wrote: Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:37 pm

:thumbup:

I forgot (Again sorry) what you was using before, think it was the "ST" and STF remake ? So STFM would be good as its what I tried it out on.
Problem exists on 520ST and STF Remake so as you say trying on an STFM would be good.
The plot thickens - Finally got the new (well new for me) STFM and it was functioning correctly.

Fortunately the shifter was already socketed which saved some time. I popped in the HDMI / DVI board and booted.

It did not reset. Have had it running GEMBench for over 30 minutes and still has not reset.

Just to check I put it back in the 520 ST and it starts resetting again.

One thing though is that I am getting a shimmering on the display on the STFM - will look into that next as well.

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Re: Project: HDMI/DVI out for STFM

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:46 pm
by exxos
Icky wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:44 pm One thing though is that I am getting a shimmering on the display on the STFM - will look into that next as well.
Thats the issue I had...



Re: Project: HDMI/DVI out for STFM

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:07 pm
by Icky
exxos wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:46 pm
Icky wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:44 pm One thing though is that I am getting a shimmering on the display on the STFM - will look into that next as well.
Thats the issue I had...
At least we are consistent :)

So interestingly from my testing I see the following traits

ST ModelRevisionResettingShimmeringComments
520 STMC070243 REV. EYesNoRock solid display can be seen if you can get it past resetting and playing a game
520 STFMC070789-001 REV. CNoYesShimmering even present playing a game
STF RemakeC070789-001 REV. FYesNoRevision is from the donor STFM that gave the remake most of its parts. Seems to exhibit same behaviour as 520ST

Re: Project: HDMI/DVI out for STFM

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:38 pm
by exxos
Icky wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:07 pm At least we are consistent :)

So interestingly from my testing I see the following traits
Very odd..

Add this cap and I bet you be working fine...


https://www.exxosforum.co.uk/forum/viewt ... 270#p14777

Re: Project: HDMI/DVI out for STFM

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:59 pm
by Smonson
Thanks for finding this out Icky! Amazing work!

Re: Project: HDMI/DVI out for STFM

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 6:46 pm
by Icky
exxos wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:38 pm
Icky wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:07 pm At least we are consistent :)

So interestingly from my testing I see the following traits
Very odd..

Add this cap and I bet you be working fine...


https://www.exxosforum.co.uk/forum/viewt ... 270#p14777
Out of interest what value did you use?

Re: Project: HDMI/DVI out for STFM

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:06 pm
by Icky
Icky wrote: Sat Jan 05, 2019 6:46 pm
exxos wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:38 pm

Very odd..

Add this cap and I bet you be working fine...


https://www.exxosforum.co.uk/forum/viewt ... 270#p14777
Out of interest what value did you use?
10nF actually made the board not work - black screen.

47pF works fine.

Screen is now stable on STFM.

EDIT: Just tried the HDMI board back in the STF Remake and 520ST with the 47pF cap in place and its even more temperamental. Some times its just a blank screen like when I used the 10nF when in the STFM and not very often it might try to boot and of course reset. On reset it mostly goes back to blank. I guess the 16MHz line is not so happy in these two machines with the cap on it.

Re: Project: HDMI/DVI out for STFM

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:01 pm
by exxos
Icky wrote: Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:06 pm 10nF actually made the board not work - black screen.

47pF works fine.

Screen is now stable on STFM.

EDIT: Just tried the HDMI board back in the STF Remake and 520ST with the 47pF cap in place and its even more temperamental. Some times its just a blank screen like when I used the 10nF when in the STFM and not very often it might try to boot and of course reset. On reset it mostly goes back to blank. I guess the 16MHz line is not so happy in these two machines with the cap on it.
Anything over about 390pF will squash the signal to much. Its not a good fix, but I still suspect its a clocking issue.