How to: recapping the Mega STe power supply

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Re: How to: recapping the Mega STe power supply

Post by mikro » Wed May 13, 2020 12:41 pm

Icky wrote:
Sat Nov 11, 2017 1:17 am
One is a REV-A1 which has the cut track and the centre post is isolated with cloth tape. This one the opto isolator is a CNY17-3Z and it is from an Atari TT REV H.

The other a REV-02 which does not have the cut track and the centre post is not isolated. This one has the PC111 opto isolator and is from and Atari MegaSTE.
For me it was the other way around: "-002" had the cloth tape (not sure about cut track) and PC111, "-001" had 5 screws and CNY17-3Z.

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Re: How to: recapping the Mega STe power supply

Post by Icky » Wed May 13, 2020 1:00 pm

Just digging through my photos and found the cut track board. That saved me opening the machines back up again.

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Re: How to: recapping the Mega STe power supply

Post by exxos » Wed May 13, 2020 1:22 pm

mikro wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 12:41 pm
Icky wrote:
Sat Nov 11, 2017 1:17 am
One is a REV-A1 which has the cut track and the centre post is isolated with cloth tape. This one the opto isolator is a CNY17-3Z and it is from an Atari TT REV H.

The other a REV-02 which does not have the cut track and the centre post is not isolated. This one has the PC111 opto isolator and is from and Atari MegaSTE.
For me it was the other way around: "-002" had the cloth tape (not sure about cut track) and PC111, "-001" had 5 screws and CNY17-3Z.
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I think we need to take into consideration is a few things here.

1) what is stamped on the power supply lid.
2) what the PCB version actually is
3) what version of OPTO it has
4) if it has a cut track or not.
5) if the middle screw is insulated or not.

I'm going to make a preliminarily assumption that the cut track may be relating to the Opto used, and the cut track is basically doing the same thing as isolating the middle screw..
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Re: How to: recapping the Mega STe power supply

Post by czietz » Wed May 13, 2020 1:42 pm

Icky wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 1:00 pm
Just digging through my photos and found the cut track board. That saved me opening the machines back up again.
It's maybe worth noting that the cut also "only" breaks a loop but doesn't fully disconnect something from something else:
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This connection isn't even there in the first place on the PCB that @Pacman an posted:
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The issue with the opto-coupler (why you should have a PC111 or CNY-17F and not a CNY-17) is something else entirely, imo. E.g., I have two -001: one had the "bad" CNY-17 optocoupler, the other one a PC111.

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Re: How to: recapping the Mega STe power supply

Post by mikro » Wed May 13, 2020 6:42 pm

I have to correct my previous statement, too. My situation is:

First MegaSTE:
  • C302074-001 (on lid)
  • S/N S10201717A3 (on lid)
  • REV A1 (on PCB)
  • 5 screws, nothing insulated
  • nothing to cut
  • PC111
Second MegaSTE:
  • C301379-001 (on lid)
  • S/N M04700353A2 (on lid)
  • REV A1 (on PCB)
  • 5 screws, nothing insulated
  • nothing to cut
  • PC111
TT:
  • C302074-002 (on lid)
  • S/N xxxxxxxxxxx (on lid) (TODO: check)
  • REV A2? (on PCB) (TODO: check)
  • 4 screws, insulated with cloth tape
  • cut PCB? (TODO: check)
  • CNY-17
I don't have all the information about the TT because I can't find the energy to open it again. :-)

It's interesting that Icky's REV-A1 did have the track cut while both my MegaSTEs + Pacman's don't have anything to cut at all. @Icky isn't there a chance you have mistaken those two? For instance, you keep referring to yours as "02" while the photo clearly shows it is "A2".

Also, I don't think it is a coincidence that a cloth tape is used, this must by factory, i.e. another hint that Icky's PSU with track cut was in fact A2, same as in my TT. His "A1" was from a TT, had track cut and CNY-17 opto.

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Re: How to: recapping the Mega STe power supply

Post by Icky » Wed May 13, 2020 7:28 pm

mikro wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 6:42 pm
It's interesting that Icky's REV-A1 did have the track cut while both my MegaSTEs + Pacman's don't have anything to cut at all. @Icky isn't there a chance you have mistaken those two? For instance, you keep referring to yours as "02" while the photo clearly shows it is "A2".

Also, I don't think it is a coincidence that a cloth tape is used, this must by factory, i.e. another hint that Icky's PSU with track cut was in fact A2, same as in my TT. His "A1" was from a TT, had track cut and CNY-17 opto.
It's possible I got them mixed up @mikro - It was a long time ago as you mention I dont have the will to go and open them all up.

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Re: How to: recapping the Mega STe power supply

Post by Icky » Wed May 13, 2020 7:41 pm

Damn, I couldn't leave it alone. Actually glad I popped it open there was a lot of dust in there.

My TT PSU is:
  • C302074-002 (on lid)
  • S/N S20207127A7 (on lid)
  • REV A1 (on PCB)
  • 4 screws, insulated with cloth tape on 5th centre pillar
  • Cut in PCB
  • PSU Metal frame # 63029-289 REV C
And no they physically are not mixed up as I performed the PSU re-caps at different times and never had the two out together.

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Re: How to: recapping the Mega STe power supply

Post by mikro » Thu May 14, 2020 7:18 am

OK, now my curiosity got sparkled again, this is really puzzling. Maybe mine is A1, too.

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Re: How to: recapping the Mega STe power supply

Post by mikro » Thu May 21, 2020 7:22 pm

mikro wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 6:42 pm
TT:
  • C302074-002 (on lid)
  • S/N xxxxxxxxxxx (on lid) (TODO: check)
  • REV A2? (on PCB) (TODO: check)
  • 4 screws, insulated with cloth tape
  • cut PCB? (TODO: check)
  • CNY-17
I can't edit the post anymore, so here it is:

C302074-002 (on lid)
S/N S20207006A7 (on lid)
REV A1 (on PCB)
4 screws, insulated with cloth tape on 5th centre pillar
cut in PCB
CNY-17
PSU Metal frame # 63029-289 REV C

So it would seem that the only A2 PSU has been found in @Icky's MegaSTE and our TT PSUs are virtually the same. And as @czietz mentioned, the opto-coupler is entirely different issue as PC111 has been found in my A1s and also in Icky's A2.

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