Tip restorer testing

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Tip restorer testing

Post by exxos » Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:48 pm

I got one of these to try...
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Before...
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Oddly it smells like fruitcake as its just come out of the oven or something.. :shrug: Probably highly toxic and reduced my lifespan by 6 months...
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Afterwards...
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Its sort of like solder paste but doesn't melt easily.. Its covered my tip and it look super nice again and solder sticks to it just fine.

So will see how long it lasts.. but it looks pretty good so far!
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Re: Tip restorer testing

Post by sandord » Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:57 pm

Nice! I got the exact same stuff in the mail yesterday but haven't tried it yet. I have an completely oxidised tip laying around, I could try if it's restorable.

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Re: Tip restorer testing

Post by exxos » Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:28 pm

sandord wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:57 pm
Nice! I got the exact same stuff in the mail yesterday but haven't tried it yet. I have an completely oxidised tip laying around, I could try if it's restorable.
I've got a really old one , not sure which iron it fits though , could be from 10 years ago :lol:
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Re: Tip restorer testing

Post by sandord » Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:31 pm

exxos wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:28 pm
I've got a really old one , not sure which iron it fits though , could be from 10 years ago :lol:
You could always heat it up using a blow torch :D

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Re: Tip restorer testing

Post by exxos » Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:37 pm

sandord wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:31 pm
You could always heat it up using a blow torch :D
True, IIRC I am banned from those things :lol: :cry:
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Re: Tip restorer testing

Post by sandord » Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:40 pm

exxos wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:37 pm
True, IIRC I am banned from those things :lol: :cry:
So that's how your previous two psychiatrists got burned out :shock:

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Re: Tip restorer testing

Post by sandord » Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:13 pm

Here's my completely oxidised tip:

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After running it through the restoring process:

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Look quite useable again.

In the second picture you can see there's still a dark cavety that didn't get restored by the process (I tried a few times though).

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Re: Tip restorer testing

Post by rubber_jonnie » Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:18 pm

Funny, all I ever use is a damp sponge every time I solder, and the iron tip is always clean as a whistle, with no oxidisation.

Worst case scenario I have a pot of plumbers flux which I dip the hot iron into and it comes up lovely.
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Re: Tip restorer testing

Post by sandord » Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:24 pm

rubber_jonnie wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:18 pm
Funny, all I ever use is a damp sponge every time I solder, and the iron tip is always clean as a whistle, with no oxidisation.

Worst case scenario I have a pot of plumbers flux which I dip the hot iron into and it comes up lovely.
Well, in my case it was the result of improper handling. I used to solder at 430C or something, often I left the iron on unused for half an hour or so and I didn't clean the tip often enough.

Now I solder at 300C and I don't leave the iron on unused for more than a few minutes (stand by set to 5 mins). I always ensure the tip has fresh solder on it and I use copper wool instead of wet sponge cleaning to keep temperature variations at a minimum.

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Re: Tip restorer testing

Post by rubber_jonnie » Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:36 pm

I usually work at 370 degrees, and if I don't use it for a little while it does oxidise a little, but the sponge always gets it looking like new.

I do want some of the copper wool for my other iron though as it has a little trough for it in the stand. Always clean before, each and every item I solder.
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800XL + Ape Warp mod, 2x 1010 cassette, 1050 + Happy mod, 65XE (128k) & XC12, SIO2SD, 2600jr, 7800 and Lynx II
Atari 520ST (1Meg) + Gotek, 1040STFM + Vortex ATOnce + Gotek, 1040STF long button floppy, 4160 STE with Gotek and ROM switcher, 4160STE with 32Mhz booster, ROM switcher and CosmosEx, not to mention various bare ST boards for testing including a PAK 68/2 :)
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